Take it away, Jacob Rees-Mogg. What did you learn?
Most obviously, Brexit needs to happen in a true form. The vassal state that apparently the Government and the Opposition have agreed, including a Customs Union and high alignment, is not the answer. This will simply ossify the failure that has just been punished in the local elections.
The Tory party needs to be the Brexit party and to win back all those who are planning to support Nigel Farage and my sister, Annunziata Rees-Mogg, at the European elections. To do so will show the path to a clean Brexit. This is not to deny that the current House of Commons has set its face against leaving the European Union properly and wants to remain at least semi-attached, but Parliament against the people cannot work for long. Voters will not tolerate such a state of affairs.
Hmm, that sounds like a challenge, Jake. It’s perfectly possible Britain is so enamoured with pure “kill em all” Brexit that Annunziata will romp home with the bacon at the end of this month. We shall see, eh? In the meantime, do you have a good explanation for the lib dem and green shift in your pic, Jake, seeing as they aren’t fans of any sort of Brexit? Jake wasn’t the only fellow to make this category error.
election results show voters want both main parties to ‘deliver Brexit’
Eh? How the hell do you interpret massive gains for the Liberals who are unashamedly pro-remain, and the Greens, who are functionally pro-remain, as a massive support for Brexit? Why is UKIP down more than half? WTAF is with the tin ear and blinkers?
It may not signify a massive push for Remain, after all, these elections are meant to be about local issues, which Brexit most certainly isn’t, but if you were to read anything about Brexit into it, less rather than more Brexit would seem to be the obvious inference to draw.
And anyway, Treeza, you took on this job so it’s your problem to deliver it. Verhofstedt was right that the Brexit was a catfight in the Tory party that got out of hand, so if it destroys your lot then perhaps that’s the price you pay for not kicking out the nut-jobs early on. This voter doesn’t want anybody to deliver Brexit. Not in my name, thanks. I was lucky enough to be on the winning side this time.
In a delightful twist today I got a welcome invitation to vote for the EU parliament elections.
The People’s front of Brexit and the Brexit people’s front
can go and stick it as far as I am concerned. I wasn’t for it in the first place, I thought May’s deal matched roughly the result of that 2016 vote but it appears that wasn’t good enough for the nut-jobs. FFS it wasn’t good enough for the nut-jobs supposedly on her side, they wanted a pure ‘and we curse you and the horse you rode in on’ version of trading with our nearest neighbours. I will try and understand the d’Hondt proportional representation system of the EU elections to maximise the pro-EU form of my vote. Brexit was wrong then in my view but it was doable and fair enough in 2016. It’s gotten even more wrong as time passed by, an amped up all or nothing caricature which doesn’t justify the slim margin. If you want that sort of extremism, then put it to another bloody vote, and this time, Brexit lovers, say what you are FOR rather than against. Give the People’s front of Brexit form.
Here’s how it’s done.
I have not been represented in UK elections the last time
and I’m getting sick of it. Everybody seems to be yelling about the will of the people as in the 52% who voted leave, and ever since 2016 anybody of the 48% gould go swing in the wind. The result of that damned referendum was only slightly over 50%, it wasn’t overwhelming. Due to the nature of the voting system in the UK1, there are basically two choices in with any chance, and both of them promised to promote the goddamned Will of the fricking People as sampled in 2016. But the Will of the People is a moving target. We’ve had a general election since then. It would have been nice to have had a chance of voting for an unashamedly pro-Remain party, that had a chance of winning if there were enough Remainers to carry it. But there was nowhere to go for the for a Remain vote. I voted for one that didn’t have a chance of winning rather than vote for either of the two main parties who were in fear of the Referendum. This was a general election that happened after the bloody Referendum. the whole point of an election is that the answer can be different from what it was last time. Else what’s the point?
The thing that scares me most about Brexit is why it’s most ardent fans are so obscenely rich
The referendum was for leave, but not necessarily the most extreme leave. The result wouldn’t have cleared the 2/3 majority bar many countries set for constitutional change, so feelings weren’t extreme. Rich people seem to be taking us to the more extreme end, for example let’s look at the good people of the European Research Group2
There’s nothing wrong in itself about being so rich, but when I was a nipper politicians were not all born with such a huge silver spoon in their mouths. Harold Wilson (1960s) came from Huddersfield and went to a grammar school, Edward Heath, James Callaghan, Margaret Thatcher, John Major were all civilians, not well into the 1%.
There’s some argument that people who are meant to represent us should have some awareness of how the rest of us live. Presumably IDS, the glowering bald geezer on the right of the ERG pic, didn’t really have any idea that his Universal Credit, that leaves applicants over a month before they get any payment might cause hardship? What would a fellow who was gifted a house worth £1M know? Let the buggers eat cake3, eh IDS? Why five weeks FFS, Iain, it’s not like we are still in the time of Hollerith punched cards and big iron. Does not the term living from paycheck to paycheck have any resonance in the primal soup twixt your ears?
Farage who was cheerleader of UKIP until it became infested with people even more extreme than him [how is that even possible?] is obviously down to his last £2mill or so, so he has got his buddy Richard Tice to front up the replacement Brexit party. Haven’t got any source of Tice’s networth but since he is in property management with 500M AUM is not exactly some common man either. Tice was there from the get-go, a participant in the plot for creating a non-political ‘out’ group to persuade people that they would be better off out of the EU, with the help of Lynton Crosby.
It all seemed easier in 2016. There weren’t the swivel-eyed nut-jobs banging on about Britain ruling the waves and vassalage, it seemed possible to have a conscious uncoupling and still speak in a civilised manner to our erstwhile trading partners in matters of common interest.
Didn’t turn out that way for some reason, and since Remain was pretty much out for the count with all the Furies hollering ‘will of the people’ there seems to have been no resistance to the current form, which is the will of the filthy rich people.
Deep Throat was right – but you can’t follow the money in Brexit
One thing is clear, if this is worth so much money and Sturm und Drang for the most extreme for of Brexit being pushed, perhaps the wise move for those fortunate enough to be able to think about early retirement is to buy into some of these companies. Except that you can’t. Tice’s Quidnet Capital isn’t listed. I suppose you could sign up with Rees-Mogg’s crew Somerset Capital Management, if you have deep enough pockets you can get on the board, but you can’t buy shares.4
So Deep Throat‘s advice will get you nowhere. There isn’t a way to make money from Brexit, because the advocates are want to keep the spoils of Brexit for themselves, and may the Devil take the hindmost.
That’ll be everybody else. At least if you voted for Brexit you won’t mind taking the shaft to make these good people rich because you got what you wanted. In the meantime, it is time the 48% got a push on to resist this takeover of the whole thing by the 1%.
The EU isn’t perfect in any way. But Brexit is deeply more dysfunctional in most ways
In the past it’s been difficult to get that excited about EU elections before, since the
EU Parliament seems to have a largely ceremonial role to rubber-stamp the technocratic decisions of the Commission (update this appears to be wrong, see this comment for a more accurate summary). But the full-spectrum clusterfuck that is Brexit shows that there is a much worse way, and that is diktat by the endlessly interpretable negative. It looks so easy, what could be more democratic than a referendum? Well, if the electorate were good enough to actually vote on the specific issue of the referendum, all would be well. WP highlights the problem, however
Critics of the referendum argue that voters in a referendum are more likely to be driven by transient whims than by careful deliberation, or that they are not sufficiently informed to make decisions on complicated or technical issues.
Referendum fans should be forced to make their proposals deliverable with an action plan of how to start. Sure, no plan survives contact with the enemy, but a negative with no action plan is dangorous. I know, let’s have a referendum on stopping war. Abolishing poverty. They’ll probably both be carried, but are tough to deliver. What you want and what you can get are two very different things. That’s one of the nice things about elections rather than referendums. It’s conventional to have some sort of a plan in a manifesto, as opposed to the simple ‘do you want to leave the EU (the devil is in the details over there)’
You can make a coherent case for Brexit, but 2016 was high on emotive crap and low on analysis on both sides. Voters also tend to use referendums as a general punching-bag for what they don’t like about the current administration, or at least there’s a lot of that mixed in with the actual issue. The punching-bag is why we have general elections.
Whatever’s wrong with the EU, and there’s a lot wrong with it, is dramatically outweighed IMO by what’s wrong with the gnarled and twisted negative that is the state of Brexit. Why it’s so hard for people to grasp that Britain is a middling-sized developed country that needs to rub along with its trading partners rather than an imperial Colossus straddling the globe beats me. We don’t have to trade in the EU, but since they will be our largest trade partners, some sort of agreement on common ground would be a good start.
- I was dumb enough to favour keeping it in the 2011 referendum, although the proposed change was the alternative vote system, which I am still not sure I understand, and the Electoral Reform Society says it’s a piss-poor way of electing a Parliament: “AV is the best way to elect a single person, like a president or mayor, but it’s a flawed way to elect a parliament as it isn’t proportional” ↩
- I’ve said it before but it’s worth saying again that the ERG is a misnomer, there’s nothing European about the ERG which are a bunch of little Englanders, and no research goes on because research that implies you are looking for information you don’t already know, rather than seeking confirmation of an existing set of views about the world. ↩
- from that dry Parliamentary report: When the system runs smoothly, claimants now face a mandatory wait of five weeks for their initial payment once they have claimed Universal Credit. This wait can be much longer if claimants struggle to make the initial claim, or if they are not paid on time. In March 2018 the Department failed to pay 21% of new claimants their full Universal Credit entitlement on time. The Force of general awareness and compassion is not with this IDS one, the Ermine observes. If his version of Brexit is as good for the rabble as his version of improved social security, then so help us God ↩
- SCM seem to be taking some bother in their reviews, presumably for the extracurricular antics of the monocled and top-hatted one. I kinda liked the pithy summary of – Financial front for the far right ↩